Used Cisco

Jul 30, 2007 at 23:24 o\clock

Network World Article

The following Q&A is taken from Phil Hochmuth's article "Don't sniff at used network gear, dealers say," in NetworkWorld.com:

Is theft and counterfeiting a problem with used equipment from other vendors?

Stafford: Theft is a problem for everybody, but there is not a big market for non-Cisco products, especially the random stuff you might pull out of a warehouse. Cisco is the 800-pound gorilla. … So if you are an organized crime ring — which there are in all kinds of theft — it becomes pretty obvious when you steal a bunch of boxes of Riverstone, and no one will buy them. Whereas you steal a bunch of boxes of Cisco and there's people paying good dollars for it.

Jul 24, 2007 at 23:24 o\clock

UNEDA: The Network World’s Rebel Alliance

An excellent show this week with the leadership of UNEDA (United Network Equipment Dealer’s Association) which represents hundreds of companies who resell networking hardware such as Cisco, Juniper, Adtran, Nortel, Marconi and more. We discussed Cisco’s PR attack on the secondary market (those who sell used and refurbished hardware) as well as UNEDA’s battle against counterfeit equipment leaking into the market.

Information taken from RefurbRadio.com

-Check out the interview by visiting the link below

Original URL: http://refurbradio.com/uneda-the-network-worlds-rebel-alliance/

Jul 24, 2007 at 00:25 o\clock

NetworkWorld.com Article

“Cisco set to fight aftermarket sellers”

“Cisco set to fight aftermarket sellers”
-Taken from Networkworld.com’s Cisco Subnet Community Blog
-This opening Blog discusses the current conflict of interests between Cisco Systems and the secondary market. Check out the link at the bottom page to see replies to this Blog.

The Cisco secondary market has been one of the hot topics of discussion in the Cisco Subnet forums and news from this week's Cisco Partner Summit in Las Vegas is likely to get some chatter going again.

Network World Senior Editor Phil Hochmuth reports that Cisco's Brand Protection group is revving up an international brand protection campaign, with a simple message for Cisco partners and customers: genuine Cisco gear only comes from Cisco and its partners.
"We're going to be stepping that up in our fiscal year '08, where we'll be putting much more emphasis in overall communications to end-users and the channel," says Philip Wright, director of worldwide brand protection at Cisco.

Wright claims that buying aftermarket Cisco gear from dealers in the market "run a good chance of picking up counterfeit equipment."

While the danger of getting fake gear through aftermarket dealers may exist, industry experts say incorporating used network equipment into an overall equipment-buying strategy can be a useful cost-saving tactic. One strategy is to use aftermarket Cisco switches as hot spares, letting IT staff replace failed equipment with working gear immediately, and without paying for costlier same-day replacements from Cisco.

Read Phil's full story and then jump in (hit 'reply') with your views. Is Cisco scaremongering to protect its revenue, or is it working hard to protect users from fake goods?

Original URL: http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13336

Jul 19, 2007 at 00:47 o\clock

TMCnet.com Article

The following paragraph is taken a TMCnet article and features John Stafford, COO and Wholesale Director at Network Liquidators. The article summarizes the various topics that were to be discussed in the Second Annual UNEDA meeting in Las Vegas:

"UNEDA members represent more than $1 billion in network equipment buying clout," says John Stafford, vice president of the UNEDA board, chairman of its membership committee and COO at Network Liquidators, a founding UNEDA member. "Our members represent the entire spectrum of the secondary network market and all abide by a strict code of ethics. UNEDA's focus on best practices is helping correct misconceptions about our industry while driving awareness that the secondary network equipment market is a legitimate, economical source of top-notch gear."

Original URL: http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/05/14/2611730.htm

Jul 18, 2007 at 01:16 o\clock

NewtorkWorld.com Article

John Stafford, vice president of UNEDA - United Network Equipment Dealers Association, has supplied Network World with UNEDA's response to Cisco's official Refurbished Equipment FAQs:
FAQ #1:
Used Cisco Equipment from Non-Cisco Sources Refurbishing and testing processes:
Quality varies by seller
No market standard exists for quality of refurbishing process
Not all products are refurbished; some are sold as-is
No provision to incorporate upgrades to comply with ECOs
UNEDA'S Response:
All equipment is tested with data being passed through each port to ensure they operate at peak performance
All redundant systems are put through fail over tests to verify reliability
Any empty chassis is populated to capacity with known functional blades to ensure all slots, power receptacles, and connectors are functional
Material Taken from NetworkWorld.com

Jul 17, 2007 at 00:29 o\clock

InformationWeekly Article

Buying used equipment is a business decision--getting fake used equipment is big trouble. The United Networking Equipment Dealers Association, a 350-member association of resellers, recently established a task force to address the issue of counterfeit products in secondary market channels.
To help UNEDA members distinguish between real and fake equipment, the organization has put together photo albums and lists of steps for a variety of products, such as gigabit interface converters. It also works with law enforcement and manufacturers to identify traffickers and will expel any member caught dealing in stolen or counterfeit products.

"It's important to members that they have a good reputation," says John Stafford, president of Network Liquidators and a founding UNEDA member. "We want to be regarded as legitimate businesses."
The group says it has reached out to Cisco Systems(CSCO), a prime target of counterfeiters, without success.
"UNEDA has their position in the market, and we have ours," says Dave Walters, Cisco's director of brand protection in the United States and Canada. "Our position is, to buy authenticated equipment you have to go through the Cisco channel. If you go to the secondary market, you could be the victim of stolen or suspect product."
IT managers who think they've inadvertently purchased counterfeit or stolen gear should contact the original manufacturer. To avoid getting taken, always ask to see a title or other proof of sale.
Jeff Zeigler, CEO of TechTurn, a reseller of used and refurbished IT gear, says every piece of equipment that passes through its facility comes from enterprises and small businesses with title. Everything is documented by serial numbers so TechTurn can trace ownership.
Taken from Information Week, Written by Andrew Conry-Murray
Original URL: http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=200900736